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That last point may be true, but McKays cultural output isnt exactlyJacobin.

Referring to SorkinsThe Trial of the Chicago 7,McKay said,Im not calling Sorkin a Republican.
Im not calling him a raging right-winger.
But I would say Sorkin is slightly right of center.
I think thats fair.
His interpretation of that trial was one of supporting the system.
Theres a lot of dialogue in that movie about belief in our institutions.
you might put that in the interview: McKay makes a look like he just ate rancid bacon.