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As Coupe recalls, the show came together very quickly over the course of a weekend.

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Not that there hadnt been any prior activity, of course.

The focus now is to build new shows on a framework that ties everything together.

(It was also converted into a television segment.)

(5 Thingsis additionally available in Spanish.)

The company is also said to be hiring a dedicated team of 10 people to support the effort.

If you think about how audiences relate to CNN, its almost Pavlovian.

When news breaks, they turn on the television.

We want to create that with other platforms.

Having established that foundation of listenership, the company is now working to press harder into the medium.

Elsewhere, the CNN Audio team has also started pressing into more evergreen content.

At this writing, the audio division is principally monetized through advertising.

But there are also some experiments on this front.

Well see what comes of that.

Audiences dont necessarily know that CNN is in the audio game just yet, said Coupe.

Thats what our goal is right now.

The notice read:

Were writing to provide an update on the availability of Apple Podcasts Subscriptions and channels.

Weve addressed these disruptions and encourage creators experiencing any issues tocontact us.

We will introduce additional enhancements to Library in the coming weeks.

HitRafu Shimpoandthe Reappropriate blogfor more detail.

This production will work under the direction of Gimlets New Formats team.

Speaking of which, I gotta find a way to get my hands ona Car Thing.

Pitches are accepted until late June, and the results will be announced at the end of September.

May the best (told) scam win.

But despite these accomplishments, looking for an entry-level position proved challenging.

It was pretty daunting, to be honest, said Lent.

I dont have that, but I know that Im able to do the work.

There was only one catch: Apprentices would not be financially compensated for their work.

I was hesitant to do it when I learned that it was unpaid, Lent told me last month.

She decided to apply and, along with a few others, was accepted.

Together, they made up the first apprentice cohort atShelter in Place.

Earlier this year, Lent completed the program and says positive things about the experience.

It was exciting for me to create those systems, she recalls.

First of all, because I love being organized.

However helpful this guidance may be in court, in real life, its a bit squishy.

A good journalist has been used to define someone whos able to stick it through, said Murphy.

The person whos able to work those unpaid jobs theyre valorized.

Exploitation is baked into the system.

Unpaid audio internships are nothing new.

Up until 2011, NPR only paid their summer interns, rather than their fall and spring cohorts.

(Today, all NPR interns are paid $15 per hour across the board.)

One of those people was John Asante, now a senior managing producer at Pineapple Street Studios.

He was offered and accepted the summer internship but recalls that it was still tough.

We want them to leave feeling prepared, said Asante.

Another podcast studio, Dustlight Productions, offers an apprenticeship program that carries a similar philosophy.

We are firmly against giving them busy work.

(The terms intern and apprentice are sometimes interchangeable, but not always.

We want people who maybe havent had the opportunities that other people have had, she said.

(For what its worth, I did the math, and it checks out).

Mitchell and his team have always secured enough funding to keep the program free to participants.

But over the past few years, Mitchell has fought to do something even better: pay the participants.

According to the dean, his student body included kids who were already juggling multiple jobs while attending school.

We pay them to be with us, basically, he said.

And its not just about the four or five days.

Its the long game of mentorship and coaching that we provide.

We are always at the disposal of our alumni.

Always, always, always.

To be honest, I never did an unpaid internship.

Never, he said.

There is a systemic exclusion if people cant afford it.

The idea is to not leave people out.

Everybody needs a mentor, right?