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This post contains spoilers for the plot ofThe Matrix Resurrections.

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The three of them refer to their collaborative process as the Pit.

I didnt agonize about it long and hard at all.

Lana had a couple of issues in her personal life.

Her parents had both died, and this put her into a different headspace.

The idea for the film had its origins in that.

Obviously, I cant speak for her.

But as a result of that headspace shift, Lana contacted Aleksandar and myself.

Lilly, for reasons of her own, chose not to be involved.

What was that kernel of an idea?Its a two-pronged answer.

As a thematic answer: Maybe love is stronger than death.

It wouldnt be a reboot where its just one more in a row.

What came before is encased inside whats happening now.

The characters, the actors, and screenwriters dont pretend that the last 20 years havent happened.

In the world of theMatrix, things dont look like they did at the end of the 90s.

Then we had to start to think about the future of the universe.

Lana had some strong ideas already.

Basically, we sit down at a table and talk.

That seemed appropriate to the changes in the status of women over the last 20 years.

To Trinity-ize the film seemed like a good direction.

We have a nice chemistry.

Like the coffee-shop scene, which is one of my favorites in the whole of this action movie.

That one was Lanas, pure and simple.

Let it not be said that Warner Bros. doesnt have a sense of humor.

So, maybe, a few of those echoes crept into that line.

With the elevation of Trinitys character, the movie also revises the idea of Neo being the One.

What made you three want to explore that idea?I guess its just where we are in life.

Its how we think.

But Im in San Francisco, and thats okay here!

Thats my best answer.

Its who we are.

Did you notice that Neo never actually picks up a gun and shoots anybody with it?

He redirects other peoples bullets once they are shot.

Only a fraction of that gets into the film, but you have to know.

So theres many more shades of gray in this one.

Theyve obviously been foregrounded in Lanas life, and Aleksandar and myself, were close friends.

Im a dialogue geek.

I love the shifting nuances of language.

Lana is the visionary.

Sasha [Aleksandars nickname] is, to drastically oversimplify, the logic-checker.

We call him the tire-kicker.

If an idea gets past Sasha, then its probably really seaworthy, to mix my transport metaphors.

Then, after the first draft, we polish and read it through and read it together.

By the time it comes out the other end, you no longer remember who wrote what.

If youre writing together, you have to be egoless about it.

This isnt my speciality.

Im a quiet novelist.

Its not my job to describe an action scene, but the structure and architecture is certainly my job.

I think the vast team has done a lovely job.

The machine weaponizes individuals.

It wasnt that he was a secret bomb all along.

He was a human being.

Its an arresting thing to watch, but it also validates the credentials of the villainy of the machine.

If you get enough beats like that, then you have your chase scene.

An ending that has the spark of a beginning I also like that about the trilogy.

A former enemy becomes an ally, against Agent Smith.

I thinkResurrectionshonors that courage to build complexity into the world.

Theres simplicity, but also complexity, like reality.