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And it looks like the Recording Academy loved them too!

You write songs not just to dance to.

Like, dance is not a monolith.

It has all kinds of varieties.

So why dont we start by listening to Ferris Wheel.

Like, youre 14 youre getting some attention.

You dont know what the heck it is.

Youre discovering yourself in that way.

It doesnt have a vague, universal chorus.

It has highly specific, imagistic kind of language.

It takes you to that place.A.M.

:One of my general modes is specificity when Im really trying to reach for a true hook.

Nick Sanborn:It puts it into reality.

Thats a thing that were always shooting for.

And I personally love songs that lean the opposite, that heighten the celebration of the ultimately human things.

Numb is the opposite of The Twist.A.M.:Indeed.

It is kind of the opposite of The Twist, but also it is the same.

Youre shaking yourself back for the ocean and for the forest and for your family.

:That was also a crazy day.

Lets just, like, make a thing, just to crack the knuckles of the day.

And I think thats why the beat is so frenetic and fast.

It was an anxiety beat for me.

I was just trying to make a thing that felt really electric and cathartic for me in the moment.

And then when Amelia had that line, shaking out the numb, immediately it was crazy.

A.M.:And then we added the bass wobble.

And then once we got that …

It was amazing and came together.

I feel like the collective we really ought to learn this dance.A.M.

:Thats the dream.

I think we need to shake out the numb.A.M.

:All the time.

:Literally every day multiple times a day.

If you start to doomscroll, stand up.N.S.

:Put it down.

Nothing is going to be better.