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From playing the game ofSurvivor, Kara Kay and Angelina Keeley know what its like to be blindsided.

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So how did Kay and Keeley get from an island full of rationed rice and backstabbing to Sicilian paradise?

As is the case with many great plans, White told his former colleagues over brunch last November.

I was a little frazzled; I was running late, Keeley says.

As I sat down, he goes, Im putting you two inWhite Lotus.

I was like, Oh, thats funny, lets get some mimosas and lattes.

Why would he let us goofballs anywhere near his set?

Mike was front row to some of the worst acting moments of my life onSurvivor:jacketgateand thefake idol.

Eventually, White convinced them he was not bluffing and theyd bejetting off to Italyin the coming months.

Pretty early on we knew there was American Woman No.

1 and American Woman No.

Were going to beacting.

Though both had some nerves making their non-reality TV debut, they were welcomed with open arms on set.

And in true Angelina form, Keeley got somenegotiatingin.

Kay took an understated, shocked approach to the moment, but Keeleys performance was … something else.

I was wiping a fake tear away like I was at a funeral.

Mike came up like, Angelina, this is why youre perfect for reality TV.

Youre so over the top, she says, laughing.

Less grief, more shock.

At the premiere for the new season, Whitenoted theressomeSurvivorweaved into the show thematically.

And in Keeleys eyes, the through line comes through victory.

Survivoris about winning by being cunning and strong, she says.

InWhite Lotusone, winning is about money and socioeconomic levels.

WithWhite Lotustwo, its about sexual politics and power.

To help celebrate the first seasons tenEmmy wins,she baked him a heart-shaped banoffee pieadorned with lit candles.

Oh my God, its likeSurvivorall over again.

I plead the fifth, Kay says.

Thats up to Mike.

Ill leave it to his creative genius, Keeley adds.

The game never ends.

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