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Ive written quite a bit about kids podcasts in the past, mostly as a subject of business intrigue.

Tell me about that.
My 5-year-old, who is particularly podcast-obsessed, falls asleep to hers every night.
NQ:Do you remember what the first few shows were that got them into the habit?
How did you learn about them?
How would they describe what makes a good pod for them?
And what are your own feelings on what makes a good kids pod?
KVA:For them, the thing that makes a good podcast has a lot to do with tone.
You know how early elementary-school teachers have that way of talking thats just very distinctively up?
Its not quite that, but its in that same zone.
Dour is not going to work.
Overly serious is not going to work.
(And if its internet connected then its going to get other game apps onto it!
Thats just inevitable!)
My biggest headache is just getting.
I complained about this on Twitter recently and learned abouta very small companythats also designed to help with that.
I will not be giving you my money!
The spinoff iscalledTerrestrial, and it takes the form of a six-episode series all about the natural world.
That whiplash, for me, is a real guiding principle.
They say that feedback went a long way in helping them cut segments and lean into weirder directions.
In one session, they learned that a lot of kids simply didnt know what a radio was.
The great thing about kids is that no ones mincing words: This is cringe!
Miller, a mother herself, told me of the feedback exercises.
You could watch in the classrooms and just see when theyre bored or when theyre squirming.
But were okay being cringe-forward, she added.
But I didnt want it to only be that note.
As discussed, the sound designers are Mira Burt-Wintonick and Phoebe Wang.
Lulus listening to …Well, I cant get enough ofYoure Wrong About.
Oh, andThe Loudest Girl in the World.
Every second of it is good.
My desk lamp is fiscally conservative and socially liberal, unsurprisingly.
Wanna know something wild?
I dont think I can name a single Grateful Dead tune.