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(One of those films,Frozen, would quickly become a franchise.)

It was, you could argue, the beginning of peak franchise at the movies.
Trevorrow is a filmmaker focused on change, specifically of the redemptive variety.
The last decade has been something of a rollercoaster for the San Francisco native.
The episode prompted someheavy self-reflectionand ultimately brought him together with hisJurassic World: Dominionco-writer, Emily Carmichael.
I was there the whole time when we were makingFallen Kingdom.
And yet it was really important for me to let J.A.
Bayona make his movie.
Im a giant comedy nerd.
Theres actually some British comics in the film: Ben Ashenden, Alex Owen, Ahir Shah.
For me, its getting that out of my system.
Like my deep desire to really just be a writer onSNLand live in that world.
Ive gone down another path, but I do get little moments of that energy into these movies.
I never like to be asked to talk about something more.
The T. rex fromJurassic Parkis like a symbol of our childhoods.
Our favorite character dies at the beginning of the movie.
Its so emotional, its so personal.
Its something thats really real to us.
I think thats how we all need to feel right now.
We were eating breakfast in the morning and were there on weekends.
We literally couldnt leave.
Hopefully it doesnt feel like characters who know theyre in a movie.
It feels like real people who are meeting other real people and then have to power forward and survive.
These are great achievements that I think are a redemption for him.
Everything that you see here is because of me, he says in our first film.
He specifically drew a comparison to the Kardashians.
He said we demand the Kardashians exist, and then we get mad that they exist.
But by the end of that movie, Claire strips away and rejects the machine and embraces nature.
That was me kind of stripping away all my cynicism and embracing that dinosaurs are awesome.
It was a very childlike way to end the film.
But the second film is about moving animals from one continent to another and the dangers of displacing them.
And this movie is definitely about genetic power and not being humble in the face of nature.
I dont mind kids hearing that right now.
It was such a nefarious thing for a climber to do.
The Mamoudou story is my favorite in the movie.
Its gonna take us doing it.
Were there any real-world touchstones that informed the eccentricities of that character?
Its only a pattern that I just saw very recently.
I like that movies can be a Trojan horse for ideas.
What have you learned from that collaboration?Well, I think theres two sides to that.
That was an opportunity for me.
To me, it spoke a lot to the value of creative people helping each other out.
I think we can do that for each other.
The ending of this film leaves some doors open with the addition of new characters.
It creates a totally different status quo.
But when that much change happens, a new world exists and theres opportunities in that world.
So I didnt wanna completely shut it down.
I wanted to create new characters who I think are icons in their own right.
And he, or she, is out there listening.
This interview has been condensed and edited for clarity.